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Posted 26 June 2010 - 10:54 PM

does anyone know where i can order potato starch paper from?
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Posted 29 June 2010 - 08:35 AM

View Postbreifenberg, on 26 June 2010 - 11:54 PM, said:

does anyone know where i can order potato starch paper from?
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They are called 'obulato' paper. They are used in Japan for making small edible containers to hold powdered medicine - diy pills. If you have a large japanese supermarket in your area, like mitsuwa, that will be the best bet. Look in the health and beauty section. Otherwise you will have to order from a japanese retailer online, which can be extremely difficult.
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Posted 29 June 2010 - 02:19 PM

You can get it from Bakery Crafts, West Chester, OH 1-800-543-1673

http://www.bakerycra...er/Default.aspx

It is called wafer paper 0 grade 8"x11" 100 sheet in the package made in Holland, people using this to make
photo copy to put it on the cookies or cake. It's made from potato starch. The only problem of
this company is wholesale only and sell to who has re-sell #. You may need to work with
local retail store and have them order for you, it is inexpensive for 100 sheet.
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 08:38 PM

Thanks Alice and Christian,
i had this dish when i was at Alinea about a month ago and i wanted to recreate it for my family and friends.
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Posted 03 July 2010 - 01:59 PM

Alice,

The wafer paper from bakery craft are not the ones used at Alinea. Although the paper disolves like original it is not transparent. christian, is the obulato paper transparent or translucent?
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Posted 04 July 2010 - 02:15 PM

Brian,

http://blog.madridfu...&idr=0000000421

Please take a look of this Madrid Fusion site, you can select the English site, it has Chef Grand Achatz's Lemon Soda picture and recipe.

The color of that wafer paper like this one but thicker. I send you some for you to test and let me know whether it will work or not.

Alice
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Posted 04 July 2010 - 10:00 PM

where can i get spray dried lemon juice?
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Posted 05 July 2010 - 08:58 PM

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where can i get spray dried lemon juice?
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Van Drunen Farns more closed to you, carries freeze dried same as spray dried, they also carried drum dried. 300 W. 6th st., Momence Ill 60954
Tel: 815-472-3100 You can call them up for samples. In CA I deal with Mercer, Modesto CA Tel 831-626-1323 they will send you samples.
When I send out your paper tomorrow, I will give you some sample of dry powder, remember freeze dried or spray dried both are strong concentrated, you need to taste
before you put in the package. Good luck!
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Posted 08 July 2010 - 08:19 PM

View Postalicefangliu, on 05 July 2010 - 10:58 PM, said:

Van Drunen Farns more closed to you, carries freeze dried same as spray dried, they also carried drum dried. 300 W. 6th st., Momence Ill 60954
Tel: 815-472-3100 You can call them up for samples. In CA I deal with Mercer, Modesto CA Tel 831-626-1323 they will send you samples.
When I send out your paper tomorrow, I will give you some sample of dry powder, remember freeze dried or spray dried both are strong concentrated, you need to taste
before you put in the package. Good luck!

Alice,
so the powder you sent me is freeze dried lemon juice? or i can make freeze dried lemon juice?
THanks
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Posted 16 July 2010 - 04:37 AM

View Postalicefangliu, on 04 July 2010 - 02:15 PM, said:

Brian,you can use standard rice paper for the same effect



http://blog.madridfu...&idr=0000000421

Please take a look of this Madrid Fusion site, you can select the English site, it has Chef Grand Achatz's Lemon Soda picture and recipe.

The color of that wafer paper like this one but thicker. I send you some for you to test and let me know whether it will work or not.

Alice

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 08:13 AM

Becareful with the recipe on the Madrid Fusion site. The recipe in spanish calls for 75ml of Grapeseed Oil but when you hit the English button the recipe calls for 75gm of Grapeseed Oil.

I believe 75ml is the correct amount.
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Posted 16 July 2010 - 10:42 AM

View Postnicks, on 17 July 2010 - 03:13 AM, said:

I believe 75ml is the correct amount.


Hmm, this is interesing; all recipes in the Alinea book are expressed in weight, never in volume. And I actually made this recipe last night (using 75g of oil) and it turned out pretty great; super-easy to do and very fast.

The 'potato starch paper' I found in a Japanese market in Berkeley near where I live; it was a pack of 50 small 'bags' for $5.
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Posted 18 July 2010 - 04:28 PM

View Postdhemberg, on 16 July 2010 - 12:42 PM, said:

Hmm, this is interesing; all recipes in the Alinea book are expressed in weight, never in volume. And I actually made this recipe last night (using 75g of oil) and it turned out pretty great; super-easy to do and very fast.

The 'potato starch paper' I found in a Japanese market in Berkeley near where I live; it was a pack of 50 small 'bags' for $5.

thi recipe is not in the book. how or where did you get freeze dried lemon juice?
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Posted 18 July 2010 - 08:46 PM

View Postbreifenberg, on 19 July 2010 - 11:28 AM, said:

thi recipe is not in the book. how or where did you get freeze dried lemon juice?



Hi there;

Yup, I realize the recipe isn't in the book; I was just noting that the book notes things in weight, and so was amicably and respectfully disagreeing that the soda recipe expressed oil in ml.

And admittedly I did not use freeze-dried lemon juice. I used Kool aid. I don't think this affects the question of grams vs ml though.

Cheers!
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 01:01 PM

View Postdhemberg, on 18 July 2010 - 10:46 PM, said:

Hi there;

Yup, I realize the recipe isn't in the book; I was just noting that the book notes things in weight, and so was amicably and respectfully disagreeing that the soda recipe expressed oil in ml.

And admittedly I did not use freeze-dried lemon juice. I used Kool aid. I don't think this affects the question of grams vs ml though.

Cheers!

sorry if i came off a little harsh. however i have made this recipe (minus the lemon juice) and used the 75 grams of grapeseed oil. Like you said everything is in weight and i dont know why they would deviate for one recipe.
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